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Subject: Wem Town Hall Sat 19 Jan 2008, 1:34 pm

An account of the Wem Town Hall picture is now on the main site under Shropshire.

http://www.mysteriousbritain.co.uk/england/shropshire/shropshire7.html

Joined : 05 Feb 2008 Posts : 106

This account misses out the bit where a fire brigade video was obtained by ASSAP. This showed the scene from different angles. There was a burning piece of wood leaning on the rail where the 'figure' appears. It is a simulacrum.

Subject: Re: Wem Town Hall Tue 05 Feb 2008, 6:10 pm

Subject: Re: Wem Town Hall Mon 21 Apr 2008, 10:15 pm

Joined : 30 Jan 2008 Posts : 107

I'd be interested in seeing the footage too.

Joined : 05 Feb 2008 Posts : 106

I don't have the video, unfortunately. I've asked around but no one I know seems to have a copy. Sad

I have spoken to someone else who saw the video and they remember seeing the burning plank too. However, it can't be taken as definitive evidence given the way that memories alter over time.

Interestingly, Vernon Harrison, former photographic expert of ASSAP, suggested a burning plank when first examining the photo, having never seen the video. He is often quoted as saying the photo is 'genuine' when it is reproduced on websites. What they usually fail to mention is his opinion that it is a burning plank! I wonder why ....?

Regarding how it could have got through the door. I suppose if it was burning then it may have split to a smaller size. The 'face' might represent the bit where the plank burnt in two, still glowing.

To me, once you think of it as a burning plank everything fits into place and the 'girl' vanishes!

Subject: Re: Wem Town Hall Wed 30 Apr 2008, 10:30 pm

I dont mean to be rude Mystershopper, but how could an organisation like assap not still have the footage ? Surley it must be in their archive.

Everytime i look at the picture i cant seem to see a plank of wood lying on the rail, I'm not saying your wrong though. The face does seem to be in the wrong place to be on the body.

But at the end of the day you are asking us to accept what you are saying without giving us the evidence.

Lee.

Joined : 05 Feb 2008 Posts : 106

Subject: Re: Wem Town Hall Thu 01 May 2008, 4:51 pm

It would be good, in future, if such important films are lodged with a national archive. Not sure if there is such a thing in England, but I know we have one up here.

Subject: Re: Wem Town Hall Thu 01 May 2008, 8:21 pm

Thanks for the reply Mystery, I looked at the photo again and covered the so called face up with my mouse pointer. Then i devised a little experiment utilising two cigarette paper packs, i tried it with a rule and a pen first but a pen doesnt replicate a plank very well. I positioned the first pack in an aproximate angle to the rail, then lay on top of that the second pack at the aprox angle the pic shows for the head/plank.

Conclusion to home made experiment, if you get the angles right with the rail and the top of the head/plank the bottom of the pack is firmly positioned on the ground, replicating a plank of wood on a rail.

Hope this makes sense.

However... even with the intense light that a blaze of this size throws out, we should still be able to see the underside of the plank as its outside the building.
My reasoning for this is we can see the outside of the door, frame, raillings etc.

Lee.

Joined : 05 Feb 2008 Posts : 106

Nice experiment! I reproduce anomalous photos all the time. They are often a lot easier to reproduce than you might think. The problem is that so many people just assume it is 'impossible' without even trying! It is an unfortunate habit of thought that is prevalent in paranormal research.