Piggins
Number of posts : 4 Age : 43 Location : Lockerbie Registration date : 2007-09-03
| Subject: Reddlemen Sun 21 Oct 2007, 2:54 pm | |
| Does anyone know any stories connected to reddlemen? When I read Thomas Hardy's "Return of the Native" a few years ago, I was fascinated by the character of Diggory Venn, the reddleman - a travelling salesman of dye for sheep. There are references in the story to folktales about reddlemen snatching children, and the sacks in the back of their caravan being full of children's bones. I've never been able to find any mention of these stories anywhere else, and I've always wondered if they are just very specific to the Dorset area or even just a complete fabrication of Hardy's? It would be interesting to know. | |
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Urisk
Number of posts : 193 Age : 39 Location : Scotland Registration date : 2007-10-01
| Subject: Re: Reddlemen Sun 21 Oct 2007, 5:36 pm | |
| I've never heard of these things, but they sound quite creepy I tried them on the ever reliable ( ) Wikipedia. Nothing. I wonder if they're just a fabrication of the author? Sound a bit like the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang... | |
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Neil
Number of posts : 163 Location : Carlisle, Cumbria, UK Registration date : 2007-08-26
| Subject: Re: Reddlemen Sun 21 Oct 2007, 7:26 pm | |
| New one to me, too. 'The Reddlemen', sounds very Stephen King.
80s/90s rock band The Rainmakers wrote a song called Reddleman Coming, the lyrics of which are:
On the day that I was born Cross the plain come a red dust storm First the wind, then the rain Streaks of blood down the windowpane Hole in the roof, leak on the bed Bad baptism on the baby's head Mama cried the curse is come The mark of the reddleman's on my son Reddleman coming He's coming for me Reddleman coming Learn to crawl, learn to eat Walk and talk that double-speak Hide my heart and show my hand Listen in the dark for the reddleman He come selling that dirt that stain your soul Saying this don't hurt anyone at all Just sink your eyes into little girl lost But don't waste your time, it don't wash off
CHORUS
Late in life I fell in love uptown With a one-armed woman who'd been around I said how my love did you lose your hand She said a pound of flesh for the reddleman A daughter born, a father sees There's a red in the thread of the web he weaves Clean his clothes in the holy font But the rank of the reddle come back to haunt
CHORUS Red hawk sits on a telephone pole Watch to see which way I go When I fall and when I stand And tells it all to the reddleman | |
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Ian Admin
Number of posts : 771 Age : 50 Location : Carlisle, Cumbria Registration date : 2007-08-24
| Subject: Re: Reddlemen Mon 22 Oct 2007, 4:03 am | |
| I think reddle is an earthy variety of Hematite. Also refferred to as Ruddle or Red Chalk. I take it this was then used to dye the sheep. I came a cross a refernce that said the reddlemen were all gone by the time of Hardy. I'll check some books and see if I can find anymore. | |
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