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 Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?

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PostSubject: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Tue 04 Sep 2007, 6:48 am

In the early to mid parts of the 20th century spiritualists would try to convince people that the cheesecloth they were pulling from their mouths etc was really ectoplasm and con their audiences into believing they were watching a spirit manifest before them. Today popular television programmes and certain individuals try to convince people that dust caught on digital cameras is really the first signs of a manifestation. Why? I think the answer lies in the fact that people need something visual to believe in the paranormal and orbs are something the popular media can take advantage of and even create on demand if need be. The first orbs I came across were probably 7 or 8 years ago and it was a televison producer at a haunted location who brought them to my attention.
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PostSubject: photos better than proof   Tue 04 Sep 2007, 1:34 pm

again I was reading about UFO's and came across the story of a child Alex Birch, in Sheffield, Yorkshire, faking a UFO pic in 1962 with friends - despite the variations in their story the photo was taken as real and used as proof - despite its similarity to the faked photos of George Adamski apearing around the same time - hence one fake gave reality to another, and even after Alex confessed to his forgery the story seemed to have gained a reality all of its own.

The Cottingly Fairies is a similar tale. It seems people will always believe a story more if there is a photo, no matter that it is a fake.

I think the interpretation of orbs is a sad indication of the state of education today - the explanation given is exactly that.

The earth is also round, but sometimes it's the theories that argue the opposite to logical thinking that stand out for a while before fading away. People love a mystery, and will ignore science as long as possible to keep themselves entertained.

Give it a few years though and maybe all it will take once more is a piece of cheesecloth to appear on 'most haunted' to get people scared all over again.
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PostSubject: Re: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Tue 02 Oct 2007, 3:56 am

Thing is, Science still won't always explain mysteries, which will, inevitably, remain mysteries. The application of science to the whole orb fiasco, leading to it's debunking, does not negate the possibilities of ghosts. So why ignore it? Even in this day and age people still seem to want to live in the dark ages when it comes to explanation. They're happy for science to build this bubble of comfort around them and their lifestyles, but not prepared for it to test their curiosity and really pull at their willingness to learn and progress.
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PostSubject: Re: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Tue 02 Oct 2007, 6:33 am

Your right Urisk.

Just because there is an explanation for orbs does not mean we are any closer to knowing what the scientific explaination for ghosts or any other of the subjects that can be branded paranormal. As an investigator I am happy to ignore orbs now and concentrate on occurrances that cannot yet be explained. However there will be investigators out there seriously researching orbs still.
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PostSubject: Re: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Sat 13 Oct 2007, 10:26 am

Ian, have you got Novembers issue of the FT ?, there is a great photo of some bloke either eating or spewing cheesecloth on the front cover Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Sat 13 Oct 2007, 3:38 pm

Ian/Lee et al

Is Cheesecloth similar to or made of Cheese string:
http://www.goldenvale.com/products/cheestrings.php

"Cheestrings is a real cheese snack that is peelable and stringy. It is 100% real cheese. It takes one glass of milk (210ml) to make each Cheestring and there are no added preservatives or other unnatural ingredients. Cheestrings are suitable for vegetarians." If so perhaps the spiritualists were on to a good thing and were way ahead of their time. Could explain the FT photo perhaps he was in need of some calcium Laughing

Sorry mate couldn't resist
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PostSubject: Re: Are Orbs Todays Cheesecloth?   Sun 14 Oct 2007, 4:26 pm

If only orbs were a good source of calcium too Laughing
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