Here Come The Men In Black

Subject: Here Come The Men In Black Tue 25 Sep 2007, 12:27 pm

Hand in hand with UFO sightings come the 'Men In Black'. Sinister Government Agents (perhaps) who investigate UFO's and cover up proof that Aliens are visiting us. They have of course be popularised in comic books and by Hollywood Cool

(I just wanted to use sunglasses there) but do they exist?

I remember speaking to a UFO investigator who who told me he had been mistaken as a Man In Black. He and his collegues were in suits when visiting an office or some such building connected to a UFO case, it may have been a police station or newspaper, I can't remember. However, as they left the building they were spotted by other UFO investigators who were subsequently informed that the group thay had seen leaving was also interested in the UFO. They put the suits and common UFO interest together and then reported it as a sighting of Men In Black.

Subject: men in black invade cumbria Tue 25 Sep 2007, 8:46 pm

the Cumberland Spaceman photo is quite famous - picture of a little girl taken on Brough marsh with a 'spacesuited' figure behind, when the witness saw nothing. But the MIB were intrigued - and a month after the sighting two men dressed in black driving a dark jaguar car visited the family, and took the husband to the sighting location, asked many questions and left him alone on the moors when he denied seeing a 'spaceman'.

Under the circumstances - the area was near a building site for Blue Streak rockets bound for Woomera, Australia - maybe the men were MOD. In this case though, they wanted the witness to say he HAD seen a spaceman!

Subject: well suited MIB Tue 25 Sep 2007, 8:55 pm

I think I just read about a mistaken identity - the well suited individuals visiting witnesses in Heywood, Lancashire in 1989 were members of NARO (Northern Anomolies Research Association), although the MIB connection was made by the media, who seemingly will twist anything to liven up a story.

Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Wed 26 Sep 2007, 12:13 pm

Heywood in Lancs? Not very far from my old stomping grounds in Oldham Cool

, which has had it's fair share of UFO sightings in the past.

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Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Thu 27 Sep 2007, 12:05 pm

that might be true - sightings of UFO's and aliens seem always to be one step away from present day eg. sightings of angels in the past, dragons in the sky during the middle ages, airships during the 1800's and now 'spaceships'. Maybe the sightings reflect a common human psychological conditioning based on societies expectations of the unknown. Religious people have visions of angels or demons, others of faeries or aliens yet the descriptions are often similar...
MIB sightings seem to be another facet of such paranormal activity

apt name indrid!

Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Fri 28 Sep 2007, 6:41 pm

So do you think that cases where people come into physical contact with so called MIB's they are probably just mistaken identities?

Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Fri 28 Sep 2007, 7:18 pm

no - but in America the impression is that either the MIBs are government agents (like the movie) or aliens - I prefer reporter/investigator John Keel's explanation - they are ultraterrestrial. Not quite human, not quite of this dimension either. Less outerspace, more one step removed from our dimension. They act damned wierd, yet their threats amount to nothing. Few people have died after witnessing a UFO - those that have may be due to after effects of burns and radiation, not at the hands of MIB.

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Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Fri 28 Sep 2007, 7:47 pm

thats the spirit, cold

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Subject: another thing Sat 29 Sep 2007, 7:06 pm

MIB encounters are often accompanied by strange phonecalls and messages - possible hoaxes by CIA etc but quite often very peculiar noises and effects - beeping, or electronic wailing noises (often associated with UFO encounters too), and strange sayings or questions hinting that the person is being bugged eg. repetition of events known only to the person called, or pretending to be a person the recipient knows, but failing to carry the hoax off by easily revealing their lack of knowledge of the person they are impersonating.

UFO encounters seem to feature such voices and beeps, as if the person is in a trance and the sounds are cues to enter/leave the suggestible state.

All as peculiar as Indrid.

Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Wed 03 Oct 2007, 11:18 pm

Subject: ufo movies Thu 04 Oct 2007, 12:33 pm

interesting fact is that many of the US airforce people involved in UFO investigations also got themselves involved in the creation of early UFO movies as technical advisors etc as part of a disinformation plan - create movies that portray ufo's and aliens in a hollywood melodramatic light and it takes the witnesses mind off the idea that quite a lot of sightings were of secret military tests (the main theory of the old roswell crash is that it was a top secret skyhook balloon carrying radiation sensors and the like - so it WAS a balloon, but it was still secret, and it was a damned wierd looking one too as it was designed for high altitude and was basically a string of weather balloons). So creating the idea in the publics imagination that UFO's were from another planet, therefore beyond the airforce's interest, helped along the cover up of normal military operations, and made the witnesses look foolish. However, I still think that despite genuine sightings the US has no real idea what UFO's are.
The saucer shape comes from the Kenneth Arnold description in the press, but he witnessed crescent shaped craft (or birds as many now think!). It's easy to make a saucer shape for a hollywood movie - Plan 9 from outer space literally used paper saucers!!
Oddly enough though, very few movies have had a classic alien form - even 'close encounters' was more a version of ET in the head area.

Subject: Re: Here Come The Men In Black Thu 04 Oct 2007, 7:41 pm

With regards to Roswell, I heard things about the Japanese developing bombs that were attatched to a sort of lightweight zeppelin that was timed to burst over US airspace. Could the "spaceship" have been one of these baloon bombs? Seeing as it was only 2 years after the war, is it possible this was a stray that had effectly rendered itself harmless (or even the reason why the Roswell incident was hushed up) and belatedly burst?

The classic alien form you refer to, Greys? I remember them in Fire in the Sky, and possibly Communion? Of course they basic idea was used in the X Files, and I think Dark Skies, and another show called Earth:Final Conflict (I think it was??). I guess the "grey" just isn't specacular enough for Hollywood, although arguably, Independence Day took the basic idea of the "grey" and made them considerably more "badass" Twisted Evil

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